NEW:
An Interview with BriSCA F2
Stockcar Grand National Champion 823 Sam Wagner
(interview published September 7 2016 in the lead up to the BriSCA F2 Stockcar
World Championship weekend on September 10 and 11)
Age: 27
Home Town: Darlington
Occupation: Non-destructive testing
Family: Girlfriend Becca and daughter Lila
Racing career: Startin racing in Ministox aged 10 at Barford
This will be your seventh World Championship appearance in a row, an
incredible feat, underlined by the fact that only Gordon Moodie (who has raced
in the last 12 but has yet to qualify for this year’s race) can match, are you
pleased to again be in the race?
I am but you would have thought now with all these World Finals I’ve been in
I might have won one by now (laughs). Of course it’s great to be in this race,
it’s the biggest one of the year and every driver would love to have the gold
roof and you have to be in it to win it, so I’m pleased to be in it again and
have another chance at is.
Does having so much experience of the race now help your chances?
I think it does. The first few years were tough on me and the nerves and
pressure really got to me. My first World Final was in 2010 at Skegness and on
the first bend (Dave) Polley buried Moodie like a lot of people thought he would
causing a big crash and I came out of it in the lead and straight away I
thought’ wow, I’m winning the World Final’, and that was it, I went to bits
after that and started making silly mistakes I’d like to think I normally
wouldn’t make in a race and soon enough I got taken out. What made a big
difference was the year it was at Barford because I only qualified on the day
and so I started pretty much at the back and there were so many good drivers at
the front that I thought I had no hope and that took a lot of the pressure away
and that was the year I finished third. It didn’t work so well the following
year at Taunton when Chris Bradbury was meant to be on the front row but was ill
so he didn’t race and I got moved up to the front row. I remember being so
nervous and I looked across to Rob Speak who was on the front row with me, and
there he is, elbows on the cab, completely calm and relaxed and that made me
even worse (laughs). I’m hoping Andrew (Palmer) isn’t ill this year as I’m quite
happy on the second row but I think the more you do these races the easier it
gets and I try now to look at it and treat it like any other race, my attitude
is that if it’s meant to be, it will be.
Given the importance of the night does this mean extra time on the car ahead
of the meeting?
It does but with the way the dates have fallen it won’t. As much as I love
my racing, I admit I hate the time we have to spend in the garage on the car.
Now, I try to spend two nights on the car and three at home with the family and
if we have a weekend where we aren’t racing that is more time I can spend with
them. Usually before something like this I would spend more on the car but it
has fallen quite nicely this year that there is no shale racing the weekend
before the World Final weekend. I did Stoke and Belle Vue over the bank holiday
and then it’s a weekend off so the plan is to spend a couple of nights on the
car each week before the World which means twice as much work but no extra time
and hopefully that will make sure everything is as good as it can be. I even got
the scale out for it the other day (laughs).
Mentioning the bank holiday weekend, you ended the weekend winning the Grand
National at Belle Vue meaning you go into the World Final having won your last
race, does that help?
It does but it was a strange turn of events that day really. At Stoke the
day before I won my heat and finished second in the final. I made a move to try
and win but Billy Webster came through so to be honest the second was a good
result. At Belle Vue I cocked up in my heat but the car was good and had pace
but in the final the engine went sick which was the last thing I wanted. My plan
had always been to not do the Grand National, to do the final and load the car
up in good shape for the World Final rather than risk damaging it in the last
race but with the engine issues we had to try and sort it. We figured out what
was wrong and in the Grand National it was flying and I won the race. The car
felt amazing and it was a big shot for my confidence, it was a weird day as I
went from a real low to a massive high and I think the weekend as a whole will
help me at the World Final. In any race you have to believe you can do well, if
you have any doubts in the car or yourself you’ve already lost haven’t you and
having a weekend like that, ending with a win after some problems helps give you
that belief in yourself.
As a Mildenhall regular and just outside of the top 10 in the current track
championship despite not being able to attend all the meetings this year, do you
think it gives you a better chance this year?
I hope so but at the same time if you look at the grid there is probably the
best part of 20 people on the grid with a chance of winning the race and I
reckon there will be even more by the time the consolation semi-final is done.
It’s definitely a very open race with so many good drivers on the grid and a lot
of them are good around Mildenhall and even the ones who don’t race at
Mildenhall so much you can’t count them out because they are such good drivers.
Was trying to qualify for the race a target for you this season and are you
pleased with your grid position, on the inside of the second row?
Yes and yes (laughs). It’s a race that I always want to be in but I didn’t
have the best of qualifying series and I only did four qualifying rounds. I got
a racing ban from the wife, the thumb came out and pressed down on my head
(laughs). We had our baby this year and of course it got to a point where the
racing had to take a back seat, the day of the Mildenhall qualifier Becca was
ready to have the baby and the last thing I wanted was to be four hours away
from her when she went into labour, I also missed the Sheffield round and nine
times out of 10 I do well there so I didn’t qualify for a semi-final that well,
I guess only doing four rounds I did well to qualify as well as I did but I
always wanted to be in the semis and then that race went really well. Before the
race I would have been very happy to finish second, a top 10 would have been
good enough really but to be that far up the front is excellent.
You also start on the inside, will that help?
I don’t know. I’ve started on the inside and the outside of big races at
Mildenhall and both times I’ve done no good. I was on the inside for one of the
last World of Shale Championships at Mildenhall and I didn’t make it past the
first bend and in the semis I was outside and I got taken out on the last bend
so I’m not sure it makes any difference but someone has told me that the
position I’m in has produced a lot of World Final winners so hopefully I won’t
mess that tradition up (laughs).
Have you a target for the race?
I’m in it to win it and that is my goal but I believe you have to have that
mentality with our racing if you are going to do well. I read a story about Paul
Harrison who said the year he believed he could win the World Championship was
the year he did and I think if you have any doubt in yourself or the car, you’ve
already lost so I believe I can win and that is what I’m going for.
Who do you think are the other leading contenders?
Me (laughs). There is a lot of them and I think that is what is going to
make the race so good. Andrew Palmer, Rob Mitchell and Dave Polley are
definitely going to be in there, I think Chris Burgoyne could be one to watch,
he was good at Stoke and Belle Vue on the bank holiday weekend. The only thing
going against him is he has a new car and he’s not raced it at Mildenhall but if
he gets it figured out he has just as much a chance as anyone else. I also think
the qualifiers on the night will be contenders, certainly if someone like Mark
Simpson gets through, I still think he has a great chance especially at
somewhere like Mildenhall which is uncertain at the best of times. The Dutch are
also going to be strong, guys like Wim Peeters and Barry Bauer and Michael
Schutter was rapid at the weekend meeting before he had engine problems. Toon
Schut is also very good and apart from Rob Speak has probably been in more big
races than anyone so they are going to be in the mix. It’s also good that we see
so much of the Dutch at our meetings regularly now so it would be good to see
them do well to be fair.
What kind of race do you think we are going to see?
I don’t know. It’s funny because races like this, when people expect a blood
bath it’s the opposite and when people expect it to be tame, it’s crazy so I
don’t know but I don’t think I have ever been in a tame race at Mildenhall, I’m
not sure one is possible, especially with over 30 cars in it and the World
Championship on the line. I think what will make this race so special and unique
is that you are not going to be able to back off at all. It won’t be like some
races where you can pace yourself and even back off a bit, you are going to have
to be giving it 110 per cent the whole time, especially as I’d imagine the
leaders will be in amongst back markers with a couple of laps, I doubt there
will be any time when you won’t be racing someone
Do the Mildenhall regulars have an advantage?
Maybe but I honestly don’t think anyone who races at Mildenhall will see it
as an advantage. I think if you think like that you create a danger of taking it
a little easier and that will hinder you so I think all the Mildenhall regulars
will know they can’t treat being a regular as an advantage so I don’t think it
will help so much but it could hurt you if you think it will help you.
Much has been said about the formula in 2016 and the moves to try and improve
the formula, how do you feel this has been going?
I’ve been quite involved with the driver’s forum and I think it’s going ok
but none of us have a magic solution or answer to the problems, especially on
tarmac. If the tarmac scene was as good as the shale one there’d be no issue but
it will take time and I think working together will help in the long run. It’s
been a bit of an eye opener for me with regard to the work the promoters put in
as I think have been guilty for assuming they don’t do enough so that’s been
interesting but I think it has also helped them hearing more about the work we
do as well so it’s improved our appreciation for each other.
There is talk of introducing a shootout style series to the National Points
Championship much like BriSCA F1 Stockcars has, is that something you would like
to see?
My personal opinion is silver roof should be decided over a whole season and
not just a few at the end but I wouldn’t against some kind of series at the end
of the season to keep the interest up after the World Final but it would need
driver support. They tried it a few years ago with the 50th anniversary series
and that really didn’t work so it would need a big prize and there is no denying
the silver roof would be a great incentive but I personally think that should go
to the guy whose been the top scorer the entire season.
Is there anyone else you would like to thank or mention?
My dad and his business, The Car Shop as without him I wouldn’t be racing,
it’s as simple as that. My other sponsors, A and D Transport and Wagners
Aerospace, all my friends and family for putting up with what I make them put
with and everyone else who helps or contributes, no matter how small it is, it
all helps and it’s all appreciated.
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